TNG-HD rewatch

Brikar

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2x04 " The Outrageous Okona - Han Solo bangs every chick on the ship except Troi and Wesley. Not much for effects, but again lots of great color and texture. Okona's scruffy beard and space pirate costume look great.

2x05 "Loud as a Whisper" - Data and Troi help a deaf mediator. This episode mostly takes place aboard the Enterprise, save one planet set that is mostly just bare rock. Still, every scene features fantastic details and color. One thing I'm noticing more in this season so far is just how much frickin makeup Marina Sirtis has on in every scene. Holy crap. And that "hooker red" shade if lipstick isn't very flattering, either.
 
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Brikar

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2x06 "The Schizoid Man" - Badger's Dad tries to use Data to get jiggy with a PYT. This episode features some really shoddy work on the special effects front. Firstly, the planets have soft, ill-defined features - totally unlike the sharp, detailed ones we saw in Season 1. Secondly, in Season 1, there was often a bit of the color of the planet reflected on the ship's hull. It was fucking gorgeous. In this season, the ship remains gray throughout - or, in the case of this episode, is simply and flatly tinted blue. The detail on the ship is nice and sharp, but the color just looks wrong. The final shot of the episode is really, really fucking terrible. I've attached a screenshot to illustrate why:

 

Brikar

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It's worse in motion. As the Enterprise exits the screen, it actually ends up properly aligned. So you can see the ship sort of "wipe-in" as it's moving off the side of the image. Hard to describe, but freaking obvious and awkward as fuck. And you can see in the picture that the ship's lights are visible beyond where the ship ends.
 

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I really hope your reviews so far aren't totally indicative of the rest of the season.

If Q-Who turns out to be a wash I'm going to seriously consider not getting the set at all.
 

Brikar

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I really hope your reviews so far aren't totally indicative of the rest of the season.

If Q-Who turns out to be a wash I'm going to seriously consider not getting the set at all.
How the tables have turned! ;) I should be clear: The live-action photography looks amazing. I'm halfway through A Matter of Honor and all the interior shots on the Klingon ship look incredible. What used to be a hazy, dark mess is now a very moody, detailed location. I mean, you can see detail in the roiling background fog. It's bitchin. And even the exterior shots of the Klingon ship look amazing; it's a very deep, bold green with tons of detail on the modle (because it was made for feature film use). BUT there are also lots of disappointing stock shots of the Enterprise that are just too bright and washed of color. In the episode where Pulaski gets the aging disease, you get to see the great coloring on the Enterprise... but only because the shots are close-ups of the ship, so close that you can't help but see that there are lots of panels painted green or darker gray. In the long shots, though, it looks all washed out... but the details are incredibly sharp. You can see all the individual lights, all the panel lines, etc.

I saw Q-Who projected on the big screen last week and generally, it looked mostly fine - again, save for the washed-out color of the exterior shots. In terms of detail it still looks phenomenal, but the color and contrast are the problems. There was one glaring error... I'm going to wait until I rewatch the episode on disc just to make sure that I saw it correctly.
 
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Brikar

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They've recomposited the original model shots. Unfortunately, it looks like there are a number of places where they did so poorly (see above screenshot) and in general did substandard color-correction on them.
 

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Methinks someone will be getting more free discs in the mail from CBS.

In the mean time, while looking for the footage in question, I found something that should whet your appetite for the next episode.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyTkrhRM-oU&feature=share&list=PLBE161543E0363F48]TNG 2x07 'Unnatural Selection' Trailer - YouTube[/ame]
 

Brikar

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2x07 "Unnatural Selection" - like with season one, the old age makeup is problematic. The sculpting is fine, but the has a plastic sheen to it. The exterior shots of the ship are much improved - the close ups of the aft of the ship and shuttlecraft let us see all the coloring on the model. In orbit of the planet, the color reflection on the ship looks more natural and closer to the perfection in season one, rather than he flappy tinting in the previous episode.

2x08 "A Matter of Honor" - Easily the best-looking episode so far, this one is absolutely gorgeous. The exterior shots have much better color and contrast. The Klingon ship is a deep, bold green. The interior sets are also fantastic, especially since you can see it now. Even with all the shadowy room and haze, these scenes pop off the screen.
 

Brikar

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2x09 "The Measure of a Man" - Presented for the first time ever as an extended, 57-minute episode. Visually, there's not much to talk about here. This episode is all about the drama and the dialog. There are a few good visual touches, but overall the lighting in many scenes is sort of flat, which has the effect of making the sets and costumes look cheaper. However, there are some standout moments. Scenes on the bridge and in Picard's ready room look good, and the scene in Ten Forward with Picard and Guinan looks incredible, with amazing shadows and excellent glow from the lit-up bar. There is a shot where the light pass is misaligned with the rest of the ship. It's easy to miss, but a minor flub nonetheless.

As for the extended version itself... None of the added scenes or bits of dialog is actually crucial. But the episode feels... fuller. It doesn't drag; it almost doesn't feel like they've added 13 whole minutes at all. There are only a couple whole new scenes, much of the added material is extensions within existing scenes. Three entirely new scenes include one in which Data tries to give his Sherlock Holmes pipe to Geordi, a scene in which Picard and Riker threaten each other during a fencing match, and a scene where Data tells Picard he isn't sentient, and Picard argues with him. The first and third scenes are great. The middle one doesn't seem to serve much purpose, and isn't particularly well-played by the actors.

One of the best additions is an extension in which Maddox crashes Data's goodbye party and says something so shockingly offensive to the entire group that Riker has to stop Worf from killing him on the spot. It batters home the bitter resentment that Maddox has toward Data, and proves him to be a gigantic asshole on top of a bad scientist.
 

Brikar

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2x10 "The Dauphin" - Awful Wesley episode looks pretty good in HD. The special effects centerpiece is a holodeck scene of an alien landscape, which looks pretty good. All the floating rocks are clearly delineated, and the spacial backgrounds have nice color. As always, the live-action photography looks good, though this episode seems a bit darker than most. As usual, Ten-Forward scenes look great. I love the dark and moody lighting in the room. Every scene in the bar looks like a movie, then the characters go back out into the bright Enterprise corridors and I'm reminded that this is a TV show.
 
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Brikar

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2x11 "Contagion" - Lots of special effects in this episode. First, there's the explosion of the starship Yamato, which looks great. You can see some nice little details as the hull of the ship burns away on the Enterprise viewscreen. There's Romulan ships, alien probes, crazy lightning, portals, etc. Much of it looks excellent. The only problem I saw was that the planet looks kinda lame. It has decently sharp detail, but it seems poorly designed. Why doesn't it have polar caps? The entire surface of the planet just looks like one uniform zone, which screams "fake."
 

Brikar

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2x12 "The Royale" - The fuck? The casino sets look good, despite their obvious budgetary limitations. The costumes are the same. Everything about this episode looks kind of cheap. But, on the plus side, the colors are bold and the details are sharp. You can polish a turd, but all you get is a shiny turd.
 

Brikar

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2x13 "Time Squared" - Very nice. Lots of effects in this episode, too. The compositing of the two Picards together into the frame is handled just as well as Data and Lore in Season One. The final act, which features the ship being sucked into some kind of living energy vortex, looks pretty good. There's one shot that's really iffy, but that's a fault of the original photography, not the restoration. There's some inconsistency throughout the episode, though - sometimes the Enterprise continues to look too bright and washed out, and other times the contrast is nice and deep.
 

Cymro

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Riker has to stop Worf from killing him on the spot
I've always loved watching Worf get pissed off (and kicking ass where applicable), so that'll be a big bonus for me. I think I've mentioned how much I love the bit where he kills Duras.

Why doesn't it have polar caps?
Poor fuel economy?

the Enterprise continues to look too bright and washed out, and other times the contrast is nice and deep.
This is why I asked about whether or not they were recompositing or using CGI, I'm wondering if some of the original stock footage they're using was just lit too brightly for them to do anything about it.